tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post8268343977147411475..comments2023-06-29T02:07:49.894-09:00Comments on The Mustard Seed: Open Post on GameTMShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-62616591047447610392012-01-04T06:50:26.898-09:002012-01-04T06:50:26.898-09:00Thanks a lot, Jennifer. As you can see from a lot...Thanks a lot, Jennifer. As you can see from a lot of the comment threads, I usually generate criticism from readers, so I appreciate all the compliments I can get :)<br /><br />But back to your comment - I don't recall the statement you said I made about Justin. Can you send it to me? I'm afraid my memory fails me :)TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-80597674956030110612012-01-01T11:33:20.110-09:002012-01-01T11:33:20.110-09:00You're a wise one, Todd. Thank you so much for...You're a wise one, Todd. Thank you so much for your words against fools like FB and Roissy, spreading dangerous poison.<br /><br />Speaking of how disgusting many kinds of game are, you said elsewhere, didn't you, that Justin was joking when he said Jesus invented game with often cruel treatment of women? Do you still think so? Because his post thus alarmed me and saddened me terribly.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04905272108326085380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-85449226182854168222009-11-17T19:36:44.004-09:002009-11-17T19:36:44.004-09:00This new essay by Ferdinand is especially disgusti...This new essay by Ferdinand is especially disgusting. The final paragraph is a nice summation of the Game philosophy of life, and it's a sad philosophy, indeed.<br /><br />http://fbardamu.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/women-dont-get-to-define-female-beauty/TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-53475094920821955682009-11-13T05:23:39.613-09:002009-11-13T05:23:39.613-09:00Thanks, Eumaios. That's interesting. I wish ...Thanks, Eumaios. That's interesting. I wish he would elaborate, however, on why he thinks the Game community is superior to the PU Artists and what specifically about Game has helped him. Actually, maybe I'll ask him that myself in a little bit.TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-51045275594979028042009-11-12T18:27:24.551-09:002009-11-12T18:27:24.551-09:00Todd, here's a newcomer to the Spearhead who s...Todd, here's a newcomer to the Spearhead who senses the difference between PUArtistry and "Game":<br /><br />http://the-spearhead.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20Eumaioshttp://eumaios.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-2846188704773037212009-11-02T05:32:36.428-09:002009-11-02T05:32:36.428-09:00LSD: "There's nothing inherently wrong wi...LSD: "There's nothing inherently wrong with game, but the problem arises when you begin taking it so seriously that it becomes a mindset - like money, game should be a tool, not a goal."<br /><br />TW: That's a fair synopsis of my position, as well. Those who do "take it so seriously" are the ones I'm trying to engage and persuade (so far without any success). For some strange reason, the Game community has turned some of the "tools" of Game into an overarching life philosophy in which Game is the solution to every problem. The end result of such a philosophy is hedonism and nihilism (as we see in the case of Roissy).Todd Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582184405081734925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-34857156888593590672009-10-31T09:45:04.384-09:002009-10-31T09:45:04.384-09:00Game only became a real issue when it went mainstr...Game only became a real issue when it went mainstream. I've always viewed it as a set of tools to make interaction with women easier on men who haven't experienced much success in that area. It's like picking up some quick and dirty ways to drop your opponent for the guy who lives in a bad neighborhood. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but the problem arises when you begin taking it so seriously that it becomes a mindset - like money, game should be a tool, not a goal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-69671893348289718192009-10-30T09:46:20.328-09:002009-10-30T09:46:20.328-09:00J: “I laud you for even attempting rational conver...J: “I laud you for even attempting rational conversation with the Gamers.”<br /><br />TW: Thanks. I only do it every few weeks. I’m not sure why. I guess hope springs eternal: I guess I figure I can knock some sense into them, which of course never happens. <br /><br />J: “Like all religions, their adherence to Game is part of their identity, and therefore only weakly subjected to any rationality.”<br /><br />TW: Yes, I agree with that. The fact Game becomes a part of their identity makes it almost impossible for criticisms to pierce their intellect. “They hear, but they don’t listen, and they certainly don’t understand.”TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-90923940592813709902009-10-30T09:33:24.437-09:002009-10-30T09:33:24.437-09:00I laud you for even attempting rational conversati...I laud you for even attempting rational conversation with the Gamers. Like all religions, their adherence to Game is part of their identity, and therefore only weakly subjected to any rationality. I also questioned the validity of evo-psych in the comments of the Spearhead, and was simply dismissed as Christian and SoCon, no effort to actually discern what my reasoning was. I finally lost heart when even moderates like Welmer and Nova openly advocate nihilism. Thanks for running with the baton.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01023125641719686613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-53051716216857973182009-10-30T07:29:38.782-09:002009-10-30T07:29:38.782-09:00A new lovely post by Roissy...
http://roissy.word...A new lovely post by Roissy...<br /><br />http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/ugly-people-made-me-an-atheist/TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-87587921350997030492009-10-30T05:56:46.605-09:002009-10-30T05:56:46.605-09:00Eum: “To what extent is it true that the Game mov...Eum: “To what extent is it true that the Game movement regards Roissy as a hero?” <br /><br />TW: I think the best evidence is that Ferdinand himself refers to the online Game community as the “Roissyphere.” <br /><br />Without question, Roissy is the most famous of the Game bloggers (I was introduced to the “Game movement” when I linked to Roissy’s site from a John Derbyshire article. <br /><br />The pro-Game bloggers are obviously quite aware of Roissy's popularity, so they are eager to stay on good terms with him, and other effusive praise to whatever new article he puts on his website. <br /><br />Also, I’ve never heard Roissy criticized on any pro-Game website. <br /><br />http://fbardamu.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/open-thread-the-fundamentals-of-game/<br /><br /><br />Eum: “What members of this loose community do not regard him so?”<br /><br />TW: I can’t speak definitively on this issue, but in the several discussions I’ve participated in, the only pro-Game blogger who seems to restrain himself from drinking Roissy’s bathwater is Novaseeker (although Novaseeker still sees Roissy as an ally). There may be other pro-Game bloggers who share Novaseeker’s attitude but thus far, I’m not aware of them. <br /><br />Eum: “Can and should we seek schism on this fault line?”<br /><br />TW: I’m inclined to say “yes.” For any burgeoning social movement, one of the best ways to define WHAT you are is to define what you are NOT. That’s one of the keys to success. <br /><br />Think back, for example, to the early days of William F. Buckley when he was building the conservative intellectual movement. He threw the John Birchers out. And in doing so, he was basically saying, “Even though these guys share most of my goals, they’re too crazy, and they’re preventing us from achieving those goals.” In this analogy, Roissy is the John Bircher (but worse). And it’s fair of other people (like me) to call the Gamers out on this. If Game accepts (and even encourages) Roissy-like behavior, then it’s corrupted while still in the crib; it has no future.TMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07654673878708922180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8560774651993745496.post-88754193677824306702009-10-30T05:22:35.546-09:002009-10-30T05:22:35.546-09:00TW: The mere fact that the Game movement considers...TW: The mere fact that the Game movement considers Roissy to be a hero gives me enough knowledge to make the judgment that the pluses of Game are outweighed by the negatives.<br /><br />This a great crack to start hammering at, both in the context of this conversation, and as a way to stress the community.<br /><br />1) To what extent is it true that the Game movement regards Roissy as a hero? What members of this loose community do not regard him so? Are there sub-communities, and if so, what are they, and how do they overlap?<br /><br />2) Can and should we seek schism on this fault line?Eumaioshttp://eumaios.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com